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As a civil engineer I kind of would like my profession more precisely cleaved off from "software engineers." Like, not because I think I'm smarter, or more important - far from it - but just because what they do is SO different and involves SUCH different mental processes and day-to-day routines and workflows. There are hundreds of jobs more similar to mine that are not called "engineering" so it's a weird umbrella to end up under.

Actually, let's go one step further: split me and and software engineers not just from each other, but from the fancy mechanical/electrical/nuclear engineers, the people with whom I'm always a little embarrassed to be associating my stupid highway design when I call myself "an engineer."

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The scales of those studies are massively too small to exonerate social media from anything. And the study of people that were self-selected is basically worthless. I would also point out that there are problems with social media that don’t express themselves as political polarization at all.

You're right that we can't just blame the algorithms. The work of polarizing the American public began after Watergate, with the big breakthroughs being the rise of right-wing radio and Fox News. I think you're right that we didn't need social media to polarize us; they had figured out how to do it on their own. Roughly our current form of polarization was called out by Jon Stewart on "Crossfire" in 1998 (which is ironic, since Stewart eventually hardened into his own partisan/culture war position so completely). I'm not even sure if the New York Times even ran their stories online yet in 1998.

So, I accept that the polarization is not the doing of social media - but I don't think the polarization is a natural expression of human instinct. It is, like Hillary Clinton was once mocked for 100% correctly calling "a vast right wing conspiracy."

I DO, however, think that social media makes people MISERABLE. Which would be worth fixing even if it wasn't coming alongside political dysfunction. And it's likely causing polarization to lead to worse decisions, through giving people bad information. That's what got Trump in office in 2016, fake news - a term hadn't been judo'd into a catchphrase by Trump himself, and still meant "news stories, based on events that did not happen, presented as real, on fake websites, to deceive people". (You know, "fake news.")

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