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joAn's avatar

Phew! That was a lot of reading... and worth the slog. Being a stubborn dyslexic, I fought my urge to give up. So, you had me when I got to:

"The question is: “Should people govern themselves, or should experts manage them?”

People want to feel like citizens. They don’t want to be managed. The American experiment is an experiment in self-government. Technocracy says, “Vote for the best philosopher kings.”

Bingo. I got it and didn't feel stupid any more. I actually felt good that in my own way, you and I were in many ways on the same page!

My midwest, (fly-over-state) values focus on simple, common language, in-person (more kinesthetic, less virtual), steeped in nature. Not exactly your post's focus... and, not out of your focus, either :)

Thanks so much for your thoughtful, insightful and wake-up perspectives. Good Thanksgiving feast for thoughts!

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Erin's avatar

Thank you very much for this, Mike. It really helped me understand why the first impulse of all these "reasonable liberals" when they lose an election is to try to decide which disfavored group they can throw to the wolves. This time around it seems to be trans people, because Trump made a hullabaloo about demonizing them and he won, so the optimal choice is to dial away from giving them dignity and agree they're the problem. And so you get the Gavins and the Petes triangulating towards the exact amount of rights we're willing to let them have without scaring off the white working class or whatever, rather than just maintaining the value that all people deserve dignity and a chance to contribute to society.

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