Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, Carlson's CPAC speech this year was my first inkling that he will be the next R nominee for president. Keep an eye on MTG to be on the ticket. She is making moves against the party after she realized how much they hate women in power. The Republicans cowered to a mob boss to save their skins and ended up handing the whole thing over to the worst people on the planet.
Fascism never walks in wearing jackboots anymore. It shows up in a blazer, quoting scripture, thanking you for having him on the show. Tucker’s not interviewing evil. He’s laundering it. Making it smell like intellect. Blessed be the ones who recognize propaganda before it starts shaking hands with power.
…mediocrity, routine and comfort breeds stupidity and propaganda does its work
…”There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and this will always be "the man in the street." Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.”
Famously or infamously there’s a video clip of him saying that heterosexual sex is gay. That’s how deep this guy‘s gaslighting is. And his followers lap it up as ironic clubs to beat society with.
The conservative kid that shot Charlie Kirk lived in the cultural silos of people like Fuentes or even more insane corners of the dark Internet
I know the notion that Kirk's shooter was a Groyper was passed around shortly after the assassination (gaining enough traction that Fuentes had to disavow it), but since then I've seen little actual evidence to suggest it.
Apparently, there are other dark Internet social silos. Based on somebody who investigates that end of the world, and I believe roughly referred to as black pilled, is another sub culture that believes everything is going to fall apart, they have no place, and accelerates it simply by pressing on the seams of society as the author discusses. Somebody like Nick is out to “rule”. This group simply wants to see everything explode (ruin).
Which can only suggest, the reason why you don’t find evidence for him being a fan of Nick, is supposedly he was in this subculture. The issue here would be that individuals in group intentionally and deliberately mix up social signals to cause chaos.. there is the other suggestion that dating somebody who says they’re trans has to do with the very desperately messed up psychology of all this. Take what I’m saying with a grain of salt.
The level of gaslighting in the dark Internet social silos has to be seen to be believed. It’s the conservative boys who end up going down those rabbit holes. And we know who’s algorithms have been doing that.
Yes. Hating the other sex is a psychological issue that doesn’t have to do with sexual orientation.
But gosh, darn it it has a lot to do with being a conservative these days and the Christian nationalist. For them shooting pepper spray balls point blank into the face of clergy men seems to cause sexual gratification given one specific photograph of a recent incident in Alameda, California.
Everything about the far right is supported by a system that cultivates dark triad personality traits, and given the influence of large language models, psychosis.
Well, the only thing I could find on that somebody’s opinion which I can’t agree with the same degree but without any statistics or studies which I couldn’t find anything of that’s based on anecdote.
And beyond that you are implying that lesbians congenitally hate men and that’s something I don’t agree with. You would have to pull up psychological research to establish that or at least least have a chance of doing so
I see that you are philosophically trained and wear the label of academic philosopher. So surely you agree that framing the question that one should ask is an ontological antecedent to rational action towards any end. This kind of reads to me like saying “don’t present a problem, without a solution”. And I am quite hostile that stance.
True, I am philosophical trained, which helps me to differentiate between inquiry that leads to constructive dialogue and mere rhetoric that leads nowhere. I've subscribed to your missives for a while. You give complaints, which, although wrapped in honed language are, as you say "documenting that cracking," and I say are mere rhetoric. Substack, like the information space in general, is filled with people documenting their complaints, and devoid of seeking any constructive dialogue much less spurring catalysts for change. You say you are hostile to those wanting solutions. Well, there we have it. Not mere rhetoric but hostile rhetoric. We already have enough of that nonsense.
I'm not hostile to people wanting solutions. I'm hostile to people critiquing the framing of a problem as a wasted effort, if it doesn't include a proposed solution in the second breathe. And I HAVE proposed solutions, Douglas: https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/the-liberal-populist-path
Thank you for bringing this interview to our attention, Mike. Another awesome Mike (Madrid) also pointed out that Tucker would be prime for presidential candidacy a while back. It’s not far fetched in the politics-is-culture world we live in. The propaganda and testing grounds for what we the people will accept will be getting more and more sophisticated and calcified as our information platforms continue to become controlled by the same powers. I’m curious how long Substack has and what the next dependable iterations for communication will be. Nostr? Along with Mastadon? Since they are decentralized and not under ownership? How do you see our future comms evolving?
Carlson interviews Fuentes, normalizing him. Bad, indeed! But, how do we get from the facts at hand to the certainly that the intent is a progression of presidents from Trump to Carson to Fuentes? Not everything that makes some kind of rational sense is necessarily true. In its current form, this essay is an idea, not a proof.
The thing that keeps me up at night is how you're completly right about the pattern. We've seen this playbook before, just never in America at this scale. The way Tucker platforms Fuentes while maintaining that 'just asking questions' veneer is textbook normalization. What really got me was your point about how conservative Jews are treating Mamdani as the threat while Carlson interviews an actual Holocaust denier. That cognitive dissonance is wild. But here's the thing, when you're scared, tribal loyalty kicks in and overrides rational threat assesment. People would rather attack someone who challenges their politics than confront the Nazi being mainstreamed by someone on their 'side'. That's how it always works, right up until its too late.
The side note, in all of this is the teleconference of Ben Shapiro with the rest of his daily wire staff. He doesn’t understand that every other participant in that meeting are culturally aligned to Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes.
He’s in a den of leopards worried about the far right as if it’s somewhere else. All the while the rest of them, especially Matt Walsh has the I am bidding my time thought bubble above his head.
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, Carlson's CPAC speech this year was my first inkling that he will be the next R nominee for president. Keep an eye on MTG to be on the ticket. She is making moves against the party after she realized how much they hate women in power. The Republicans cowered to a mob boss to save their skins and ended up handing the whole thing over to the worst people on the planet.
Fascism never walks in wearing jackboots anymore. It shows up in a blazer, quoting scripture, thanking you for having him on the show. Tucker’s not interviewing evil. He’s laundering it. Making it smell like intellect. Blessed be the ones who recognize propaganda before it starts shaking hands with power.
…really? …”he show you a future”?! …but you never saw it coming right? …this country is dumb as bag of fucking hammers
…fascism is not an ideology it’s the way to take and hold power and once you install dictator peacefully you can not peacefully remove him - FACT
Yeah, exactly. Fascism doesn’t start with ideas, it starts with obedience. Once people trade conscience for comfort, the rest is just logistics.
…mediocrity, routine and comfort breeds stupidity and propaganda does its work
…”There was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, and this will always be "the man in the street." Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology.”
Joseph Goebbels
Beautiful comment.
That was bizarre. The last 30-40 minutes in particular.
Fuentes: Here's my litany of incel complaints and pronouncements about the nature of women.
Carlson: Have you ever lived with a woman?
Fuentes: No.
WTF?
I do weep for America if that's the level of thought that will win the next election.
Famously or infamously there’s a video clip of him saying that heterosexual sex is gay. That’s how deep this guy‘s gaslighting is. And his followers lap it up as ironic clubs to beat society with.
The conservative kid that shot Charlie Kirk lived in the cultural silos of people like Fuentes or even more insane corners of the dark Internet
I know the notion that Kirk's shooter was a Groyper was passed around shortly after the assassination (gaining enough traction that Fuentes had to disavow it), but since then I've seen little actual evidence to suggest it.
Apparently, there are other dark Internet social silos. Based on somebody who investigates that end of the world, and I believe roughly referred to as black pilled, is another sub culture that believes everything is going to fall apart, they have no place, and accelerates it simply by pressing on the seams of society as the author discusses. Somebody like Nick is out to “rule”. This group simply wants to see everything explode (ruin).
Which can only suggest, the reason why you don’t find evidence for him being a fan of Nick, is supposedly he was in this subculture. The issue here would be that individuals in group intentionally and deliberately mix up social signals to cause chaos.. there is the other suggestion that dating somebody who says they’re trans has to do with the very desperately messed up psychology of all this. Take what I’m saying with a grain of salt.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/black-pill-blackpilled
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie
This is what I've seen.
The level of gaslighting in the dark Internet social silos has to be seen to be believed. It’s the conservative boys who end up going down those rabbit holes. And we know who’s algorithms have been doing that.
It’s so demented. And a nightmare.
LOL
Now you've stepped innit!
An actual gay man might step in here and correct me, but I don't think being gay and hating women are necessarily correlated.
Yes. Hating the other sex is a psychological issue that doesn’t have to do with sexual orientation.
But gosh, darn it it has a lot to do with being a conservative these days and the Christian nationalist. For them shooting pepper spray balls point blank into the face of clergy men seems to cause sexual gratification given one specific photograph of a recent incident in Alameda, California.
Everything about the far right is supported by a system that cultivates dark triad personality traits, and given the influence of large language models, psychosis.
Well, the only thing I could find on that somebody’s opinion which I can’t agree with the same degree but without any statistics or studies which I couldn’t find anything of that’s based on anecdote.
And beyond that you are implying that lesbians congenitally hate men and that’s something I don’t agree with. You would have to pull up psychological research to establish that or at least least have a chance of doing so
Okay, now that you’ve complained (appropriately) about it, what do you think we should DO about it?
I see that you are philosophically trained and wear the label of academic philosopher. So surely you agree that framing the question that one should ask is an ontological antecedent to rational action towards any end. This kind of reads to me like saying “don’t present a problem, without a solution”. And I am quite hostile that stance.
True, I am philosophical trained, which helps me to differentiate between inquiry that leads to constructive dialogue and mere rhetoric that leads nowhere. I've subscribed to your missives for a while. You give complaints, which, although wrapped in honed language are, as you say "documenting that cracking," and I say are mere rhetoric. Substack, like the information space in general, is filled with people documenting their complaints, and devoid of seeking any constructive dialogue much less spurring catalysts for change. You say you are hostile to those wanting solutions. Well, there we have it. Not mere rhetoric but hostile rhetoric. We already have enough of that nonsense.
https://dgilesphd.substack.com/p/how-meidas-touch-and-the-rest-of?r=2ddaj4
I'm not hostile to people wanting solutions. I'm hostile to people critiquing the framing of a problem as a wasted effort, if it doesn't include a proposed solution in the second breathe. And I HAVE proposed solutions, Douglas: https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/the-liberal-populist-path
Oh look—more people you can be hostile toward.
https://dgilesphd.substack.com/p/question-for-my-subscribers/comment/171324606
After about 5 minutes, all I could think was “it’s like Beavis and Butthead, but they’re both Nazis!” Heh heh, heh, heh, fascism’s cool, heh heh.
Thank you for bringing this interview to our attention, Mike. Another awesome Mike (Madrid) also pointed out that Tucker would be prime for presidential candidacy a while back. It’s not far fetched in the politics-is-culture world we live in. The propaganda and testing grounds for what we the people will accept will be getting more and more sophisticated and calcified as our information platforms continue to become controlled by the same powers. I’m curious how long Substack has and what the next dependable iterations for communication will be. Nostr? Along with Mastadon? Since they are decentralized and not under ownership? How do you see our future comms evolving?
I don't think Carlson can fill Kirk's shoes as leader-in-waiting of the right. Too long a public record, not enough charisma, and that lunatic laugh.
Carlson interviews Fuentes, normalizing him. Bad, indeed! But, how do we get from the facts at hand to the certainly that the intent is a progression of presidents from Trump to Carson to Fuentes? Not everything that makes some kind of rational sense is necessarily true. In its current form, this essay is an idea, not a proof.
😭
How do we watch it? I can't find a link.
The thing that keeps me up at night is how you're completly right about the pattern. We've seen this playbook before, just never in America at this scale. The way Tucker platforms Fuentes while maintaining that 'just asking questions' veneer is textbook normalization. What really got me was your point about how conservative Jews are treating Mamdani as the threat while Carlson interviews an actual Holocaust denier. That cognitive dissonance is wild. But here's the thing, when you're scared, tribal loyalty kicks in and overrides rational threat assesment. People would rather attack someone who challenges their politics than confront the Nazi being mainstreamed by someone on their 'side'. That's how it always works, right up until its too late.
I listened to the whole thing as you suggested…. Are you certain you know what a nazi is, or do you just have a penchant for hyperbole?
You nailed a big part of the problem, Mike.
Know though that many Democratic donors just want honest, effective government serving all of us and not one’s personal interests.
The Democratic leadership has to go.
You are a much needed visionary.
Thank you for making so much sense.
Watching that is one difficult task.
The side note, in all of this is the teleconference of Ben Shapiro with the rest of his daily wire staff. He doesn’t understand that every other participant in that meeting are culturally aligned to Tucker Carlson or Nick Fuentes.
He’s in a den of leopards worried about the far right as if it’s somewhere else. All the while the rest of them, especially Matt Walsh has the I am bidding my time thought bubble above his head.
…really? …”he show you a future”?! …but you never saw it coming right? …this country is dumb as bag of fucking hammers