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Glenn Eychaner's avatar

'Democracy says: “Neither is sufficient. Both must submit to collective deliberation.”'

This is where it all falls apart for me; the assumption that people are capable of collective deliberation. As K said, "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." Here in the United States, as you know, it's reached the point where people aren't even smart enough to elect reasonably smart people to represent them, and we have an ruling political party consisting of idiots* run by an idiot with dementia. Discussing the parallels between "Effective Altruism" vs. "Virtue Signaling" feels like arguing about which song the band should play while the Titanic sinks.

The fundamental problem is that we've forgotten that any democracy, even a republic such as the United States, requires an informed, educated citizenry to make cogent decisions, and requires its elected representatives to be forced to behave in a manner that reflects the decisions of those citizens. The United States does neither; instead, citizens are kept uninformed by the "media", and the "representatives" choose their voters to maximize their own chance of being re-elected. All the philosophizing in the world won't solve that, which I'm sure David Hume would raise a glass to. "David Hume could out consume Schopenhauer and Hegel..."

*To be fair, they're not all idiots; some of them are "true believers" in mind-shatteringly false beliefs, or complete sociopaths only interested in the accumulation of power.

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Stuart S's avatar

An amazing piece, Mike. I shall need to read 2-3 times to grasp it all. One point which you may allude to here: we all have different values. And it will always be impossible to bridge that gap. We do the best we can and we always fail. We tend to think of a left-right spectrum which is one dimensional but this is a 3 or, dare I say, 4 dimensional arena of values (with different measures of time). We think of the next 3 months or the next 7 generations. And most of us, most of the time think of human morals, our society, the relationship between us humans. While we would like to think that we pay attention to the environment, mostly we don't. The oceans have 10% of the fish they used to, maybe less; species are destroyed. We have no control, as a species, over our fertility. The only way we have been able to support 8 billion people is with massive unrelenting destruction. And the planet does not need us, would be far better without us. We plod on and will always struggle to find a balance. And yet we are an unbalanced , unnatural species. I say unnatural in that our tools and constructions are so beyond what the rest of nature has created that nature cannot compete with us. And this is, so far, our manifest destiny. Maybe we can all, especially the right wing among us, be a little less anthropocentric and weigh our values in favor of the small planet that we live upon. And understand our role as stewards, and not destroyers and conquerors. We need the planet more than it needs us.

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