Trump will claim victory no matter what, so Europe shouldn’t optimize for Truth Social.
Denmark isn’t backing down, Rutte can’t negotiate for Denmark or the EU, and he can’t “sell” Greenland. His lane is basically to keep NATO from imploding and offer Trump something he can call a win without Europe actually conceding anything. Which mostly means repackaging what the US already has, or what allies were already willing to do anyway (more Arctic coordination, surveillance, access, exercises).
This is the geopolitical equivalent of the fake bus stop outside a memory-care facility. The shuttle will be here shortly.
Mike, consider their MO was to let him think he got ‘something’ which was really nothing, just so he’d go away quietly? Sometimes with a changeable, raging, imbecile as he is, if they cut him off fast and short, he’d be so enraged in his delirium that he’d retaliate. All it took was for Norway to not give him the peace prize to have him go berserk. Perhaps, they decided to give him a crumb to make him go away. They could manipulate the negotiated crumb afterward when they were in a stronger position.
We’d all surely understand wanting him to go away soon and empty handed because we’ve had more than we can stomach from him. A foreign journalist aptly described him as half toddler/half dictator. How apt. -Nadine Long
“That was the moment. That was the off-ramp. The correct European response was four words: “Good. There is nothing further to discuss.”
I disagree, Trump will never take a loss, he’ll just come back in a different way even more vengeful. The European’s are correct; engage and string him along. Let him believe he won even when he loses, otherwise, he’ll continue on his rampage.
Remember, it’s not just about his ego, he wants NATO destroyed; European’s aren’t ready to go it alone, and need time to scale up their own Military Industrial Complex and capabilities, outside of US involvement.
Not to mention, their resources are being diverted away from what’s truly important; continuing to rebuild their respective economies after several years of recession, and stopping Putin’s aggression by any means possible.
Therefore, you need to give them some slack, they are putting it to Trump for the first time ever; knowing full well that accommodating Trump and flattery has its limits!…:)
You misunderstand Mr. Trump's psychology, I think. Carney has been badmouthing America for the past however many months, and Trump largely ignores him. Trump is a coward. He's a bully. You must push back. Trump also ignores Gavin Newsom. Look at the evidence that Trump is a coward. It's all around. But we are surrounded by people afraid of him, and it's a serious problem.
I’m not misunderstanding; I agree, Trump is a coward, and the reason Ive been saying he will never invade for weeks; it was always about destroying NATO, but making the European’s own it.
And I agree, you have to push back, but the Canadian and European economies are intertwined with US; especially Canada’s, which is why his speech about the strength of Middle Powers united was so prescient .
Additionally Carney is being extremely cerebral; he’s making deals with China and other nations. They are also about to purchase 130 SAAB fighter jets, so they are trying to reduce their independence on the US both economically and militarily.
They can’t just say “F” you today, unless you want the petulant five year old on your radar. They already envision a world without the US and are planning accordingly. It’s the US and most of the pundits who can’t see the writing on the wall, or what’s actually happening in real-time; they are decoupling from us in every way possible.
Don’t forget, they also see what ICE is doing to immigrants, US citizens and citizens of their own countries, and recognize the US is no longer synonymous with liberty, freedom or democracy.
A "deal" is a shiny bauble you dangle in front of Trump and can usually be made with no actual obligations, and what actual obligations there are disappear the second he does. I don't think this is as much of a concession to Trump as you are imagining.
There are no negotiations. It’s just a harmless make believe for Trump’s ego. When Trump’s father Fred got dementia they constructed a fake office for him so he could go and pretend to run his business from. Much the same thing.
Trump will claim victory no matter what, so Europe shouldn’t optimize for Truth Social.
Denmark isn’t backing down, Rutte can’t negotiate for Denmark or the EU, and he can’t “sell” Greenland. His lane is basically to keep NATO from imploding and offer Trump something he can call a win without Europe actually conceding anything. Which mostly means repackaging what the US already has, or what allies were already willing to do anyway (more Arctic coordination, surveillance, access, exercises).
This is the geopolitical equivalent of the fake bus stop outside a memory-care facility. The shuttle will be here shortly.
Mike, consider their MO was to let him think he got ‘something’ which was really nothing, just so he’d go away quietly? Sometimes with a changeable, raging, imbecile as he is, if they cut him off fast and short, he’d be so enraged in his delirium that he’d retaliate. All it took was for Norway to not give him the peace prize to have him go berserk. Perhaps, they decided to give him a crumb to make him go away. They could manipulate the negotiated crumb afterward when they were in a stronger position.
We’d all surely understand wanting him to go away soon and empty handed because we’ve had more than we can stomach from him. A foreign journalist aptly described him as half toddler/half dictator. How apt. -Nadine Long
Ugh. They should have sent him (us!) to the proverbial kids’ table at Thanksgiving. Carney already had. 🤦🏻♀️
“That was the moment. That was the off-ramp. The correct European response was four words: “Good. There is nothing further to discuss.”
I disagree, Trump will never take a loss, he’ll just come back in a different way even more vengeful. The European’s are correct; engage and string him along. Let him believe he won even when he loses, otherwise, he’ll continue on his rampage.
Remember, it’s not just about his ego, he wants NATO destroyed; European’s aren’t ready to go it alone, and need time to scale up their own Military Industrial Complex and capabilities, outside of US involvement.
Not to mention, their resources are being diverted away from what’s truly important; continuing to rebuild their respective economies after several years of recession, and stopping Putin’s aggression by any means possible.
Therefore, you need to give them some slack, they are putting it to Trump for the first time ever; knowing full well that accommodating Trump and flattery has its limits!…:)
You misunderstand Mr. Trump's psychology, I think. Carney has been badmouthing America for the past however many months, and Trump largely ignores him. Trump is a coward. He's a bully. You must push back. Trump also ignores Gavin Newsom. Look at the evidence that Trump is a coward. It's all around. But we are surrounded by people afraid of him, and it's a serious problem.
I’m not misunderstanding; I agree, Trump is a coward, and the reason Ive been saying he will never invade for weeks; it was always about destroying NATO, but making the European’s own it.
And I agree, you have to push back, but the Canadian and European economies are intertwined with US; especially Canada’s, which is why his speech about the strength of Middle Powers united was so prescient .
Additionally Carney is being extremely cerebral; he’s making deals with China and other nations. They are also about to purchase 130 SAAB fighter jets, so they are trying to reduce their independence on the US both economically and militarily.
They can’t just say “F” you today, unless you want the petulant five year old on your radar. They already envision a world without the US and are planning accordingly. It’s the US and most of the pundits who can’t see the writing on the wall, or what’s actually happening in real-time; they are decoupling from us in every way possible.
Don’t forget, they also see what ICE is doing to immigrants, US citizens and citizens of their own countries, and recognize the US is no longer synonymous with liberty, freedom or democracy.
A "deal" is a shiny bauble you dangle in front of Trump and can usually be made with no actual obligations, and what actual obligations there are disappear the second he does. I don't think this is as much of a concession to Trump as you are imagining.
There are no negotiations. It’s just a harmless make believe for Trump’s ego. When Trump’s father Fred got dementia they constructed a fake office for him so he could go and pretend to run his business from. Much the same thing.
I do not understand why these countries bend to Trump, either. "Pax Pretio Empta" (peace bought at a price - if I have that correct), indeed.
Just saw this Truth Social Post from Trump: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115934734335579278
Thanks, Mike, for always saying it like it is. Thanks for having our backs.
Blessings and Peace to us all.