This is very similar to what the Jacobin magazine did to Elizabeth Warren. They couldn't come up with any significant practical differences between her programs and Bernie Sanders. The only difference was Senders said he was a socialist, and Warren said "I'm a capitalist to my bones". So Warren was rejected simply because she used different language to describe the same programs. Anyone who wanted Senders programs to be enacted should've welcomed the fact that Warren could defend those programs in capitalist language that the majority of Americans would accept. But I had lots of leftist friends who abandoned Warren when they decided she wasn't ideologically pure enough. And if she had become ideologically pure enough for the extremist left, nobody else would support her.
One can only hope, then, that in the pursuit of fairness and a better nation, that you also call out those Dems who have and will continue to fail as failures. Failure is not actually fight back on the floor with votes and real bills that are pushed, not for show. Because we now exist with a demolition party and a failed party in that the failed party has shown no hardnosed grit to actually fight back TO WIN and say no to pissing away their legacy. Compromise is how our nation works. But you can and must only compromise to reach equipible results, or you are simply capulating to rapine with a shrug and a token.
I’ve never heard of Gray and I’ll go on not paying attention to her. She seems to be a useful idiot for the right and doesn’t understand political power (or that she has very little).
This all sounds like the pseudo intellectual equivalent of instagram or TikTok influencers who sell their services to consumer brands. Makes me wonder who pays her.
A few things. 1) always watch for hyperbole, and sweeping generalizations. 2) There is some circular logic in this. 3) I am willing to name her and many of the Bernie-types (maybe even Bernie) as affiliated with Russian disinformation. 4) It is correct to criticize the Democrats for their limpness now and suggest they have given no indication they will change in the future. 5) It is reasonable to be suspicious of any compromise that doesnt attempt to achieve goods in exchange for them. We have seen far too much of that, and it tilts far too right. 6) It is reasonable to question why particular actors havent been challenged, a CoP that was promoting stop-and-frisk like tactics, especially if they dont change their tune AND that such tactics dont work, or show complete, obstinate inseboardination from a group of employees (cops, for one) to their superiors (the electeds they served under). Weve seen that for far too long, and it needs to be stopped. So if you are curbing it, then people are right to have issue
I believe her to be one of many bad actors trying to hurt the nation. Not all of her arguments lack merit, which is how bad actors function. Honestly, if someone acts like one would if one was being handled, it doesnt matter that one is or isnt because a rational person would amend themselves.
the "hamas mass rape" allegations have been thoroughly, substanstively disproven. meanwhile, actual video of IDF soldiers mass raping palestinian prisoners and photos of IDF forcing dogs to rape Palestinian men are completely available on the internet, and when some of the soldiers ALMOST faced legal consequences there were mass protests among the Israeli public to free the rapists. You are either willfully ignorant or intentionally a bad faith proponent of genocide and mass rape. good for you!
So of all this, this is what you take out of it. Do I disagree with that part? Yes. Does it become the sole critique I lob? No. And thats the difference between earnest debate and the exact kind of demolition he is talking about.
The simpler way to say this is: the leftist part of the Democratic coalition is very toxic. By constantly branding as heretics anyone who won’t take the most extreme version of every position, they mostly waste time, hurt the prospects of talented people, and keep the Fascists in power. I don’t know if they’re clout farming or sincere, but they’re a menace.
The Centrist part of the coalition is so limp and defeated that they will give away the store rather than fight back to stop it. We are both largely right.
It’s true. The Democratic political center is weirdly dispassionate and obsessed with appearances. The left is passionate but so uninterested in looking reasonable that they make things worse. My own exact valence is Elizabeth Warren, who is both reasonable and center-left and delightfully full of rage. More of her.
'Natalie claims, “all it did was show that Bernie could only win if the field was divided.” That ended up being the case, but to overlook the maneuvering that took place to get to a particular outcome and chalking that up to ‘democracy’ and ‘fairness’ playing out is just a matter of convenience and self-preservation for those who don’t want to admit that the Party they identify with intentionally rejected the practice of democracy.'
'When they discuss the “rigging” of the 2016 and 2020 elections, there is little acknowledgement from Natalie of the fact that interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile admitted the primary was rigged against Bernie Sanders, and that the Wikileaks emails from Hillary’s campaign staff validated that allegation'
That's because it wasn't, and they didn't. Some people in the DNC stated privately that they didn't want Bernie to win. That is zero evidence that anyone had rigged anything to fulfill those desires.
Mamdani didn't get any backing from establishment right till the end. Platner didn't either. They win despite not because of. And the Party worked to sabotage their chances.b
People like Sam have been at the vanguard of what you are now doing for decades. To say most things about them are wrong is like saying Bill Kristol (and Bulwark, Atlantic and Erza) was mostly right for decades.
And feel free to write about the Democratic Party, plenty to go around. From abandoning working class, siding with the brahmin class, to anointing someone as heir apparent and rigging primaries to benefit the heir apparent.
Name the Democratic party for what it is. Call them out.
I guess insecurity can disable the left as well as the right. Ego-tripping purity defeats ruthless pragmatism where intellectual privilege is the reward, where cleverness is more important than results. Once again, holisitic bodily intelligence is the casualty, along with all the downstream politics purity/privilege can muster. Make a name, make a splash -- fixing things is not the priority. So much for compassion, for reality, for community, for survival; but these do not take care of themselves, they require emotional maturity.
This is very similar to what the Jacobin magazine did to Elizabeth Warren. They couldn't come up with any significant practical differences between her programs and Bernie Sanders. The only difference was Senders said he was a socialist, and Warren said "I'm a capitalist to my bones". So Warren was rejected simply because she used different language to describe the same programs. Anyone who wanted Senders programs to be enacted should've welcomed the fact that Warren could defend those programs in capitalist language that the majority of Americans would accept. But I had lots of leftist friends who abandoned Warren when they decided she wasn't ideologically pure enough. And if she had become ideologically pure enough for the extremist left, nobody else would support her.
I intend to be very unkind to this faction as we approach 2028. I have no interest in their accelerationist designs.
One can only hope, then, that in the pursuit of fairness and a better nation, that you also call out those Dems who have and will continue to fail as failures. Failure is not actually fight back on the floor with votes and real bills that are pushed, not for show. Because we now exist with a demolition party and a failed party in that the failed party has shown no hardnosed grit to actually fight back TO WIN and say no to pissing away their legacy. Compromise is how our nation works. But you can and must only compromise to reach equipible results, or you are simply capulating to rapine with a shrug and a token.
I’ve never heard of Gray and I’ll go on not paying attention to her. She seems to be a useful idiot for the right and doesn’t understand political power (or that she has very little).
This all sounds like the pseudo intellectual equivalent of instagram or TikTok influencers who sell their services to consumer brands. Makes me wonder who pays her.
A few things. 1) always watch for hyperbole, and sweeping generalizations. 2) There is some circular logic in this. 3) I am willing to name her and many of the Bernie-types (maybe even Bernie) as affiliated with Russian disinformation. 4) It is correct to criticize the Democrats for their limpness now and suggest they have given no indication they will change in the future. 5) It is reasonable to be suspicious of any compromise that doesnt attempt to achieve goods in exchange for them. We have seen far too much of that, and it tilts far too right. 6) It is reasonable to question why particular actors havent been challenged, a CoP that was promoting stop-and-frisk like tactics, especially if they dont change their tune AND that such tactics dont work, or show complete, obstinate inseboardination from a group of employees (cops, for one) to their superiors (the electeds they served under). Weve seen that for far too long, and it needs to be stopped. So if you are curbing it, then people are right to have issue
I believe her to be one of many bad actors trying to hurt the nation. Not all of her arguments lack merit, which is how bad actors function. Honestly, if someone acts like one would if one was being handled, it doesnt matter that one is or isnt because a rational person would amend themselves.
the "hamas mass rape" allegations have been thoroughly, substanstively disproven. meanwhile, actual video of IDF soldiers mass raping palestinian prisoners and photos of IDF forcing dogs to rape Palestinian men are completely available on the internet, and when some of the soldiers ALMOST faced legal consequences there were mass protests among the Israeli public to free the rapists. You are either willfully ignorant or intentionally a bad faith proponent of genocide and mass rape. good for you!
I'm no fan of the IDF or of Hamas. But I can't find any "photos of IDF forcing dogs to rape Palestinian men are completely available on the internet".
Can you share a link, please?
So of all this, this is what you take out of it. Do I disagree with that part? Yes. Does it become the sole critique I lob? No. And thats the difference between earnest debate and the exact kind of demolition he is talking about.
The simpler way to say this is: the leftist part of the Democratic coalition is very toxic. By constantly branding as heretics anyone who won’t take the most extreme version of every position, they mostly waste time, hurt the prospects of talented people, and keep the Fascists in power. I don’t know if they’re clout farming or sincere, but they’re a menace.
The Centrist part of the coalition is so limp and defeated that they will give away the store rather than fight back to stop it. We are both largely right.
It’s true. The Democratic political center is weirdly dispassionate and obsessed with appearances. The left is passionate but so uninterested in looking reasonable that they make things worse. My own exact valence is Elizabeth Warren, who is both reasonable and center-left and delightfully full of rage. More of her.
Liberals vs Leftists: A Bad Faith Pod Case Study
https://millennialcompatriot.home.blog/2026/05/11/liberals-vs-leftists-a-bad-faith-pod-case-study/
'Natalie claims, “all it did was show that Bernie could only win if the field was divided.” That ended up being the case, but to overlook the maneuvering that took place to get to a particular outcome and chalking that up to ‘democracy’ and ‘fairness’ playing out is just a matter of convenience and self-preservation for those who don’t want to admit that the Party they identify with intentionally rejected the practice of democracy.'
Bernie lost. However unfair, thats the way things go. But they gave up fighting.
'When they discuss the “rigging” of the 2016 and 2020 elections, there is little acknowledgement from Natalie of the fact that interim DNC Chair Donna Brazile admitted the primary was rigged against Bernie Sanders, and that the Wikileaks emails from Hillary’s campaign staff validated that allegation'
That's because it wasn't, and they didn't. Some people in the DNC stated privately that they didn't want Bernie to win. That is zero evidence that anyone had rigged anything to fulfill those desires.
Mamdani didn't get any backing from establishment right till the end. Platner didn't either. They win despite not because of. And the Party worked to sabotage their chances.b
you don’t win an argument by changing the subject.
Because there are so many examples of the establishment rigging popular candidate chances
Even Mike came swinging after Platner sewed up the nomination. Sam Seders been backing him thru the 10 months of ups and downs.
He lost. The end. And they turned. See, this only works as a lost cause argument. I dislike Grey and her ilk precisely because they are lost causists.
You wrote everything Sam Seder says is wrong, then you write warren, beanie, mamdani made possible by sam seder, Kyle, et al.
You now write Gray is wrong. I cannot trust your judgement here. You just bracket every left opinionators as wrong.
"You wrote everything Sam Seder says is wrong" — I don't believe I wrote those words.
'Sam Seder is wrong about most of what he says. The Sam Seders of the world are wrong about most of what they say'
People like Sam have been at the vanguard of what you are now doing for decades. To say most things about them are wrong is like saying Bill Kristol (and Bulwark, Atlantic and Erza) was mostly right for decades.
Perhaps try condensing all your points into a single comment?
Sam Seders have been doing what you are trying to do for way longer, so why so much anti-left content in your blogs.
And feel free to write about the Democratic Party, plenty to go around. From abandoning working class, siding with the brahmin class, to anointing someone as heir apparent and rigging primaries to benefit the heir apparent.
Name the Democratic party for what it is. Call them out.
I guess insecurity can disable the left as well as the right. Ego-tripping purity defeats ruthless pragmatism where intellectual privilege is the reward, where cleverness is more important than results. Once again, holisitic bodily intelligence is the casualty, along with all the downstream politics purity/privilege can muster. Make a name, make a splash -- fixing things is not the priority. So much for compassion, for reality, for community, for survival; but these do not take care of themselves, they require emotional maturity.
At some level, this is another example of the breakdown and failure of the USAian partisan bargain: https://decivitate.jamesjheaney.com/p/fixing-the-senate-part-iii-your-correspondent/comment/247628217