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American Perp Walk's avatar

Voltaire said it best:

If you can make people believe absurdities, you can make them commit atrocities.

See: QAnon, Religious Right, GOP, Trump, FOX, etc.

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Jennifer Anderson's avatar

For some time I have felt the only thing that will save us from this nightmare is these three factions to divert from each other when their end goals no longer line up. If the Epstein files are an opportunity to make that happen sooner the Dems must hammer the issue as you have outlined. The leader the Dems are looking for is going to be someone who can stand up and say we have learned from our failures and provide an outline of how to regain the trust of the country.

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Yankee's avatar

Release the Epstein files? It's apparently thousands upon thousands of documents naming, and videos of literally all the power players of the coastal elites in the '80s and '90s. How to make sense of the evidence? Start with Michael Wolff, biographer of Epstein. (1) Epstein told Wolff he and Trump were best friends for 15 years until they had a falling out over a Palm Beach house that Epstein planned to buy. He brough Trump to see it, then Trump went behind his back to buy it. Two years later, Trump sold to a Russian mobster for twice as much as he paid for it, the classic money laundering play. Epstein was furious, they argued, and Epstein believed that Trump was the one who dropped the dime on Epstein's pedophile activities to the FBI. Epstein then dies under unexplained circumstances in jail. (2) Craig Unger has done extensive research and reporting on Russian women in Epstein's circle, at least one of whom graduated from the Russian university where government officials are trained. Hypothetical: What better use of a mansion and a beach house riddled with hidden cameras than obtaining kompromat on US power players? (3) Assuming Trump was also a Russian resource during that time, it would explain his friendship with Epstein, despite their wildly different intellectual abilities. (Epstein was intelligent, and notoriously thought Trump was a clown and a functional illiterate). (4) Hypothetical: It may not have been Trump's choice to buy the beach house, or drop the dime on Epstein. But those events led Epstein to jail, where he died under very unlikely circumstances that could have been an obvious message sent to anyone close to Epstein's operations. (5) Epstein and Maxwell may have been selling more than sex with models/minors, but the only evidence that is obtainable are the financial records held by the FBI of all the suspicious money transactions in Epstein's accounts flagged by banks. Sen. Wyden's request to see that evidence is what triggered Mike Johnson, among other things, to send Congress home early for the August recess. Bottom line: forget the "client list" and follow the money.

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AVee. (Alexia)'s avatar

God bless and long live this fracture! May it be successful!

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Frank Moore's avatar

Whatever fissures are there over this will not fracture for the very simple and straightforward reason you identified in your post: there’s nowhere else to go. The tripartite pact you’ve accurately identified cannot possibly wield the power they currently possess with any fracture you envision and that reason alone will prevent the crackup everyone so desperately wishes to see.

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B. Calbeau's avatar

As always, thank you.

The psychological projection that always occurred against Democrats is finally getting a little light. Is the “light” coming from Republicans? I don’t think so. What are the MAGA’s doing with this? Joe Rogan, Benny Evil Johnson? I read that Alex Jones had a meltdown over it, what now? Was this all about Bill Clinton and Democrats on the list?

Will the Democrats run with it? Is it an opening or see if Trump supporters forgive yet again? The “elite”will continue trying to stop it.

“Remember when we learned that our wealthiest and most powerful people were connected to a guy who ran a literal child sex trafficking ring?” Vance wrote in 2021 on X. “And then that guy died mysteriously in jail? And now we just don’t talk about it.”

FBI director Kash Patel and deputy director Dan Bongino previously suggested powerful people had Epstein killed to keep their connections to him secret. The duo reversed course after joining Trump’s administration, stating they believe Epstein died by suicide.

Vance was just as adamant in suggesting powerful figures colluded with Epstein, only for the Justice Department and FBI to announce Sunday that they did not find the “incriminating” list he was rumored to have — prompting Vance’s old posts to resurface.“

Huffington Post

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