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Connie McClellan's avatar

So ICE is gonna burst through the stands with their black uniforms and clubs on national TV? Maybe even carrying loaded weapons and rappelling from Black Hawks? Aren't those stadium cameras capable of close-up scanning of the faces in the crowd? I can just imagine live video showing ICE dragging real people with real faces, real personalities, real expressions of pain and horror (brown, white, whatever) out of the stadium. Other spectators of course would be standing in the way (iintentionally or unintentionally), so ICE will commence to laying about with their coshes and rifle butts. Fans will start hitting fans. People will start throwing hot dogs instead of sandwiches.

Of course the regime thinks it can assign its own narrative to such footage, but video will be so widespread, from so many angles; plus so many direct witnesses will be interviewed afterwards that the regime can only be overestimating their persuasive power.

Hopefully this is just a threat from people who are incapable of thinking through consequences that should be obvious at the very same instant that an idea occurs. The whole world will be watching.

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Serena Fossi's avatar

You paint this playing out at a football game well.

This essentially happened a few nights ago in Chicago in the dead of night without high def. But high def isn’t needed to awaken our humanity. And January is a very long way away. We need this recognition now. Each day means trauma and torture for too many already in chains and being rounded up, families torn to pieces. Is this not already enough to cause a stampede for justice for all people. All People deserve respect and dignity.

By the way, Even the worst criminal deserves a process that is objective and based on our most accomplished ability to adjudicate, seek even handed justice, and try for reparative justice. I say that not because those being rounded up are the worst in any way. I do not consider visitors to our country who want to work to be criminals at all.

Right now the worst criminals are the entire regime and their multi layer police state and those people should pray that justice can be served without violence or capital punishment for the most egregious actors.

We are in a sickening time and I do not see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I appreciated your description because it captured what we might not have to experience in January if we wrestle now with the Terror in our midst and staunch it before it consumes our neighbors, our cities, our beloved country.

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Jennifer Anderson's avatar

Y’all we are watching the south rise again.

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Stephen Strum, MD, FACP's avatar

We are so slow to grasp the reality- what is. Even the comedian and actor Robin Williams got it right, when he said, “Reality, wow, what a concept!”

In my work, lifelong, as a cancer physician, I have told, tongue-in-cheek, that my MD degree really stands for MD (medical detective)- a person that gathers information and determines status as close to reality as possible and then can present rational options to resolve a problem.

Mike spelled it out clearly: "This is what it looks like when government power becomes a weapon in a culture war. And make no mistake: when the executive branch uses its power to fight a culture war, that is fascism."

We have to return to concepts. One that I apply in medical practice I term the DUCK principle.

I will share the two versions of the duck principle with you:

The Duck Principle: "But when I see a bird that quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, has feathers and webbed feet and associates with ducks, I’m certainly going to assume that he IS a duck.” - Emil Mazey Secretary-Treasurer UAW Labor leader 1946

Douglas Adams parodied in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency:

"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidae on our hands."

Applying this to the Trump Administration, his appointees and the Republican Congress, and using the Duck Principle, we conclude that we are now in the throes of Fascism.

Violation of the Constitution: speech, free press, due process, emoluments clause

Attacks on those disagreeing with POTUS

Using the military against the citizenry

Picking out a religion, creed, color of the skin, or gender preference as a Common Enemy

Others, please help me in what I am forgetting but is this not enough to equate Trump with Mussolini, Franco, Putin and Adolf? Czar Adolf Trumpolini reminds me so much of Hitler that I am shocked when I heard Netanyahu describe Trump as the greatest friend of Israel.

I edited this version of "First they came" to the Trump administration version.

First they came for immigrants of color,

And I did not speak out

Because I am white.

Then they came for the Judges,

And I did not speak out

Because I am not a Justice.

Then they came for the Governors and Senators,

And I did not speak out

Because I am not a politician.

Then they came for the Press and the News commentators,

And I did not speak out

Because I am not part of the mainstream media.

Then they came for me

And there was no one left

To speak out for me….

Stephen B. Strum (1942-202?) on March 13, 2025

with apologies to Martin Niemöller (1892-1984)

Tell me please. Why is not what we are now witness to in the US, NOT fascism. Or is it, perhaps, a duck.

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E. Brewin's avatar

Aren't Superbowl tickets really expensive? Is ICE really going to ruin the experience of rich people?

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Charley Ice's avatar

ICE agents need to be arrested when they screw up, as they typically will -- not only untrained but immature and unmanageable. Bring on the local police and bar no holds.

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HeyMom's avatar

CA used to have Republicans in high offices, then they got waaaay over their skis with a proposition that legalized all sorts of exclusion and bigotry against the undocumented. The Democratic super majority in CA began immediately after that time. This administration's sickening display of bigotry towards all Latinos? Hideous criminality and political madness.

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Ken Rose's avatar

I expect DHS will avoid the spectacle of BECOMING the Super Bowl Halftime Show and merely SUE the NFL for (spin the wheel…) a BILLION dollars. They should capitulate like everyone else and give Trump $50 M for his ballroom/ second White House. And Kid Rock plays YMCA for the halftime with Trump dancing in the middle of the field.

That’s AMERICA’S GAME!

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Darin London's avatar

it's awful. I'm glad you are speaking up, and educating people on this. I just hope Democrats can get their act together and win some legislative seats. also, don't forgot to point out that Lewendowski is a serial woman abuser who likes to have sex with married women with children, like Kristi Noem, who pretend to promote so called 'family values'.

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Daniel Pareja's avatar

Speaking of Trump meddling in sports, now he's threatening to force FIFA to move World Cup games. (He's claimed Gianni Infantino is a friend of his and would do it if asked, despite the resultant logistical nightmare.)

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/worldcup/donald-trump-fifa-world-cup-boston-morgam-campbell-oct16-9.6940534

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Daniel Pareja's avatar

Reagan's notorious phrase "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" always had a silent "minorities" appended.

Also, it feels like this bunch don't know where their own voters are, because Trump's voter coalition in 2024 was (according to exit polling) the most racially diverse any Republican presidential candidate has received since the start of that (Wikipedia has it going back to 1976): the highest percentage of votes from Black people since 1980 (2020 had been the highest since 1980), the highest percentage of Hispanic votes ever in exit polling, beating 2004, and the highest percentage of Asian votes since 2004 (data indicates that once Asians were in their own category starting in 1992, they initially favoured Republicans and fell off over the years).

That said, all those ethnic groups still saw a majority go to Harris, while White people only ticked down from 58% to 57% for Trump from 2020.

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LInda Natoli's avatar

This is frightening to think this is happening in America God help up get rid of this monachial government 666!

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LInda Natoli's avatar

This is the most frightening thing zi have read as an American God help us get rid if this moniachial government 666!

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