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In my experience, there's no single kind of Trumper. And I have no numbers to these categories, and individuals can find themselves in more than one (or possibly none, I may be missing categories).

Political affiliation. Republicans are so attached to party identity, they cannot pry themselves away from it under any circumstances. I know many of these, and they lack the ability to grasp the GOP they knew from even 5 years ago, let alone 50 years ago, is gone. It's dead. It's not ever coming back. They take the Republican party as a kind of faith, and until the betrayal is severe enough that they can't be insulated from it, they will remain loyal to it.

Addicts to the depravity of Trump TV. No different from drug, sex, shopping, scam, gambling addiction. They're getting a dopamine hit. A rush. It's euphoric. They're aroused by the depravity. Some say the point is the cruelty. It's that the cruelty produces pleasure. They're addicted to the pleasure of schadenfreude.

Mass hysteria. Some are just feeding frenzy off the promise of chaos. Either wanting the chaos, or scared of it - and are rewarding themselves with hyping either of those, perhaps even both.

Collective narcissism. The president is insane, he's a malignant narcissist. And it is a contagious disease. The followers get collective narcissism. The constant fixation on being victims and being rewarded when they are acknowledged as victims. Just like Trump is always a victim.

Like Trump, quite a large number of Trumpers have a visceral reaction to holding them accountable. They absolutely demand it's right and proper to be included in all the usual family functions, perhaps even in particular the ones held by the liberal side of the family. It's part of their insistence that all of this be normalized.

And by inviting them to the usual social functions, we're giving them permission.

They absolutely need to be kicked to the curb. Kick them when they're down. They voted for a rapist, a felon, and a vile insurrectionist. There is absolutely no forgiveness without contrition. That is from their own basic catechism. We sweep this under the carpet again, it's the same obnoxious bullshit as the Lost Cause myth, and the ensuing long live the Confederacy bullcrap.

It's a fine line. Forgiveness is possible when they regret their vote. And speaking for myself, I need no further explanation. But without that, fuck them. Forever. It's permanent.

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TJ's avatar

This is the 64 million dollar question: Did Trump voters vote for what we are now getting: the destruction of our civil service, drastic reductions in government services, condemning the world’s poorest to hunger and disease, mediocre cabinet secretaries, the shunning of our long-standing allies, capitulation to Putin in Ukraine, and an all-powerful unitary executive hell bent on dismantling our democracy? The last one is unconstitutional and represents the very thing the founders of our nation fought against - the tyranny of a king. Trump often stated that he was their revenge, so many Americans clearly were in a vengeful, angry mood. However, we were repeatedly told Trump would bring down inflation and the price of eggs on day one and the media pundits, at least, claimed the economy was uppermost in voters’ minds.

My take is that many Americans did see the system as having failed them and blame democracy, although the real culprits are capitalism and our unfair political system that favors Republicans. A Democratic Party that lost its way also didn’t help. Many Americans really do dislike/hate LGBTQ folks, particularly transgender Americans and the Republicans exploited and capitalized on that. However, the Republican Administration has used these grievances to gain power but then abandoned Americans’ most pressing concerns to implement an agenda that serves the rich and powerful, not the American people. It is exposing this deception that is the key to preserving our democracy and way of life.

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